{"id":125,"date":"2017-02-14T21:04:27","date_gmt":"2017-02-14T21:04:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.secondordereffects.net\/?p=125"},"modified":"2024-11-24T15:22:52","modified_gmt":"2024-11-24T20:22:52","slug":"effects-of-ignoring-history-and-tradition-in-the-us-senate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.secondordereffects.com\/index.php\/2017\/02\/14\/effects-of-ignoring-history-and-tradition-in-the-us-senate\/","title":{"rendered":"Effects of Ignoring History and Tradition in the US Senate"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Premise of Article:<\/strong><\/p>\n

This article looks at the second order effects of the Senate procedural changes made by the Majority Leader in 2013. Senator Harry Reid unilaterally decided to change the rules in the Senate <\/a>with respect to confirmation of presidential appointees and Federal Judges.\u00a0\u00a0The rule change simplified the procedure for confirming presidential appointees that required confirmation.\u00a0 The change\u00a0was\u00a0made because the Republican minority was using every level of power that they had to slow down the administration and to force the administration to nominate more moderate appointees.<\/p>\n

Background:<\/strong><\/p>\n

Before the change, any Senator could say that he wanted to continue debate on a given appointee or put a hold on the appointee. \u00a0The only way to move the appointee was to satisfy the Senator or have a cloture vote so you could move to an up or down vote and that required\u00a060% of the Senate to go to the vote.\u00a0 To confirm the nominee once you got past a cloture vote you only needed a simple majority.<\/p>\n

The After the change, the Senate Majority Leader could simply put the vote on the schedule, have 20 hours of debate and then they could have an up or down vote for confirmation.\u00a0 With this change, often called\u00a0the\u00a0Nuclear option, the majority leader removed one of the tools that minorities use to moderate the majority.<\/p>\n

These rules have stood for 200 years and were in place for a reason.\u00a0\u00a0 The Senate rules were designed to slow down deliberations and force compromises so that one would prevent the “tyranny of the majority<\/a>“.\u00a0 The design of these rules were developed to offset the inherent weaknesses in a pure direct democracy and majority rule.\u00a0 Without rules like the ones removed by the Majority Leader, the minority can be completely ignored.<\/p>\n

Current Second Order Effect:<\/strong><\/p>\n

If you are in the majority the new system\u00a0is a great, but it prevents public debate. \u00a0When the President is of the same party as the Senate Majority Leader, the Senate becomes a rubber stamp and not serving as the Constitutional backstop that it\u00a0is suppose\u00a0to be.\u00a0 The more insidious second order effect is the potential for future Senate leaders to use Senator Reid’s action as a president to remove additional rules that protect the views and rights of\u00a0minorities. (As happened when Mich McConnell, the current majority leader did that to confirm Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court).<\/p>\n

To carry the concept of\u00a0a Senate without the current rules that require a super majority to do much of anything.\u00a0 Without rules like the one that Senator Read removed, when ever power pass, even on the slimiest majority, major changes can be implemented without any opposition.\u00a0 One congress could pass Social Security and the next congress could remove it with just a one vote change.\u00a0 So there wouldn’t be any stability, this would effect the very fabric of life in the country.<\/p>\n

Lessons from these Second Order Effects:<\/strong><\/p>\n

The Democrats are now regretting <\/a>this change and now see that the design of the Senate rules prevented big changes in the country without a super majority.\u00a0\u00a0 We hope they will learn that these rules are there for a reason.\u00a0 To make sure they learn their lesson, the Republicans should use these rules that Senator Reid put in place until they are on the verge of losing control of the senate.\u00a0 The Republicans should change the rules back to the traditional values before the rule change just before they lose control and dare the Democrats to change them again.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

The current court is the most conservative since the 1920s. Senator Harry Reid is responsible for this dramatic changes in the Supreme Court. See how ignoring traditions in the Senate set in motion the actions that revoked Roe V. 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